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Louis at one time your father was called

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Arthur Stanley Jefferson and later on he

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became one of the most famous comedians

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in the world Stan Laurel and he worked

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together with a man we all see on the

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photographs as well Oliver Hardy when

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did you get aware that he was such a

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important comedian was that always even

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you were very young I think it was

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before I had started at school because I

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spent a lot of time at the Hal Roach

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studios on the set at the same time they

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were making the our gang films and I

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used to run away in from the sets of

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Laurel & Hardy to go see what was

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happening over with the kids and I

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realized that all the fuss and the

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preparation of doing a scene and so

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forth and that my father was somebody

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except it in a way I felt he had a job

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he went to work every morning he came

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home at night just like any of the other

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children's fathers did you realize the

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result immense popular throughout the

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world and was that a local thing for you

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well and I think they were more popular

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it seemed to me that they were more

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popular in the foreign countries really

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than they were in this area that's why

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it seemed to me anyway when they went

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abroad on their tours and for holiday I

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did see the films especially from their

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1933 trip the crowds were just like 50

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deep and they were overwhelmed they

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didn't realize that they were that

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popular until they they actually went

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over there and how did you relate to all

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of her hearty oh he was a wonderful man

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I just adored him he would come to the

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house often and I got up to an age I

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must have been maybe four and by this

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time I would be taken into the screening

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room or

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go to the movies to see the Laurel and

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Hardy films and on the screen I suddenly

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realized that here was this big man

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beating up my father and I didn't think

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I liked it at one bit

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so then following week my mother said

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that when Oliver Hardy came to the house

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but I wouldn't have anything to do with

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him I didn't want to talk to him I just

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didn't say anything and we have some

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home movies where it's very obvious that

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something was wrong but I hadn't said

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anything to my parents like I don't like

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uncle Bay beating up my father or

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anything

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and finally they realized what it what

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why I thought that I didn't like him and

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so my father said well he would remedy

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that so he wrote a script where he got

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the best of all of our hearty and took

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after him with a piece of lumber and I

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thought oh my father can take care of

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myself I was very pleased oh yes

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and he can be very serious as well

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especially when he would get ideas for

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stories or be working on a storyline and

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but I seem to sense when it was time to

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to play and when it was time to be quiet

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and and let him do his writing now later

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on he divorced your mother and where

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you're still around with him oh I was

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quite small when they divorced yeah um

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five or six however I was there weekends

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and my mother was not did not try to

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keep me from seeing my father and so I

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was with him quite a bit at the time

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before he father died he already enjoyed

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the revival of the long Hardy films

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right I think Oliver Hardy sort of

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missed it in 556 yes on television as

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much my father was very unhappy with a

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lot of the television programming for

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the Laurel and Hardy films because

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number one they cut them to a timeslot

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and cut them very badly where they would

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lose what he had worked so hard to build

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to a certain gag and a lot of times

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there was a baseball game on and it was

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rained out they throw on a Laurel &

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Hardy and it would be rare it might come

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on in the middle of a film and he was

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not happy with that but he was excited

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that it all came back

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oh yes yes but he just wished that they

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could have it it bothered him that a lot

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of what he had worked so hard for was

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ruined and he didn't want the public to

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see it that way there's there's some

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things from a long hardy which will

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remain forever one of them is dis and

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the other one is probably this lazy ears

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he knows he and the finger wiggle ring

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where does it come from well I was used

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in Friday off for yes my cousin Nancy

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Wardell says that she had seen her

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grandfather rehearsing my father in

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doing this now whether my father had

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done it as a child and had forgotten or

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what that that I don't know but or

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whether my father grandfather invented

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it I read that I really don't know but

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she can recall seeing her grandfather

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teaching it or rehearsing my father

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through it and my father then when he

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came back to America I'll put it into

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his next film there's a whole line of

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performance in your family it's not only

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Stan it's also his father and maybe even

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before I don't know you could tell us is

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there what Stan's kind of grandfather

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also a vaudeville uh in in theater

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management

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really and then my father's mother was

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England's greatest tragedian and she was

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in the theater in fact really that's

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where she met my grandfather my father's

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then your husband is in fourth film he's

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a performer yes well we have one coming

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up cook time cook who looks just like my

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father did at the age that he is now 13

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my middle grandson Patrick resembles my

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father and

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at an earlier age 3/4 in there but

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young-sam has even to their ginger red

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hair and he's bound to determined that

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he wants to be in the business already

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died in 56 your father in the early

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sixties right oliver hardy died in two

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others 257 and my father died in

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february of 65 that's more than 20 years

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ago he's still music oh yes but I think

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I'm very fortunate I think our whole

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family is fortunate to be able to turn

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on the television in order to to put on

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a videotape it's kind of like having the

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family around even though they're gone

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the first few years after my father

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passed away I couldn't go through any of

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the memorabilia or the scrapbooks or

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even watch them on television but

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finally one day when my first grandchild

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was born my daughter brought him home

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for her first Christmas with the family

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and it happened it happens here that on

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Christmas Day they usually run babes in

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toyland or Swiss mints or one of those

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films and my daughter said she came out

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to the kitchen and she said grandma's

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our mother she said isn't it wonderful

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that we can have grandpa with us every